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Ikoma_Harokusake

Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Posts: 110 Location: Pretoria, South Africa
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Well I agree its un-Lion like tactics I suggest, but they are definitavely not above my character.
Also I think that in general, while the Lion uphold an honourable image, they are not above certain tactics themselves. _________________ - Magistrate - Cripple - Dependant (young boy) -
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Ikoma_Yurihime

Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Posts: 366 Location: With Toshimoko-kun ^_^
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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The only very naughty school the Lion have is the Ikoma Spymaster. The only school that I can think of that supports less than completely Nimuro-level boldness would be the Akodo Scouts. Still the former is a spy school, but every Clan has their upstanding Courtier and then their dirty work Courtier. I would rather (as an OOC stance since knowing about this IC would be a not-great thing), hold off on any truely dishonorable/unfounded tactics until we need to. It shouldn't be our first plan, because not all of us are Adian Prydes... _________________ 3.7 Honor / 2.0 Glory / 2.0 Status
Lion Clan Courtier * Benten's Blessing
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Ikoma_Harokusake

Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Posts: 110 Location: Pretoria, South Africa
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Ikoma Yurihime wrote: | | every Clan has their upstanding Courtier and then their dirty work Courtier. I would rather (as an OOC stance since knowing about this IC would be a not-great thing), hold off on any truely dishonorable/unfounded tactics until we need to. It shouldn't be our first plan, because not all of us are Adian Prydes... |
Point taken.
But then we need to brainstorm much more, for a better plan. _________________ - Magistrate - Cripple - Dependant (young boy) -
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Ikoma_Yurihime

Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Posts: 366 Location: With Toshimoko-kun ^_^
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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Agreed. Any suggestions on improvements for the two ideas on the table or any others while I go stuff myself? _________________ 3.7 Honor / 2.0 Glory / 2.0 Status
Lion Clan Courtier * Benten's Blessing
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Matsu_Kagetora

Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 307 Location: Tiger's Lair (Bungalow Jū)
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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If we are to plan anything, we should share some feedback on the skills of our chars. It's hard to plan not knowing the assets. Besides, I think the head should speak before we descend into far-reaching speculations. _________________ Lion Clan Bushi * Duelist * Dangerous Beauty * Large * Bad Reputation (Killer)
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Ikoma_Yurihime

Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Posts: 366 Location: With Toshimoko-kun ^_^
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Omoidasu/Battle Herald/loremaster/courtier. I think that about sums up all the surprises my character has. _________________ 3.7 Honor / 2.0 Glory / 2.0 Status
Lion Clan Courtier * Benten's Blessing
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Kitsu_Sukune

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Age: 30 Posts: 1292 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:32 am Post subject: |
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| Matsu_Kagetora wrote: | | If we are to plan anything, we should share some feedback on the skills of our chars. It's hard to plan not knowing the assets. Besides, I think the head should speak before we descend into far-reaching speculations. |
Spymaster with focuses in courtier (gossip), deceit and investigation. _________________ Lion Clan*Courtier*Voice*Benten's Blessing
Glory 1.8*Status 0.5*Honor 0.1
There's this beautiful girl just funked me forty ways from Sunday... we're done, she's walking to the bathroom, she's trying to walk, she turns... she looks... it's me. Not the Trojan army just funked her. Little ol' me. She gets this look on her face like: "How the hell did that happen?"
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Ikoma_Harokusake

Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Posts: 110 Location: Pretoria, South Africa
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:14 am Post subject: |
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I've got a Spymaster with magistrate skills, and uh... "ninja" skills. (for lack of a better word).
Maybe we should make a thread (and get it sticked) with our character sheets, so all of us can check regularly what we can do.
I have started to try and befriend some Mantis. I am sure it would be tactically wise to have them as "friends" rather than enemies.
I think it should be important to know why the Mantis are here, and what their goals are. That way we could maybe help then on the stuff that wont affect us, and thus gain their trust, and also hinder them with things we dont want them do achieve, using subtlety.
I think it would be best to assign certain short-term and long-term objectives, decide how they should be achieved, and assign people to execute them.
I would like to go into this with a proper, well thought-out gameplan. _________________ - Magistrate - Cripple - Dependant (young boy) -
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Matsu_Kagetora

Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 307 Location: Tiger's Lair (Bungalow Jū)
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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I have a suggestion. If we are going to give access to this forum to another Clan member at any point it would be unwise to let him/her know that almost all of us are spymasters.
Yup, me too.
So let's just remember to delete this.
I began my quest to convince our enemies that they know everything about me after five minutes. So lovin' to exploit Matsu stereotype.  _________________ Lion Clan Bushi * Duelist * Dangerous Beauty * Large * Bad Reputation (Killer)
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Kitsu_Sukune

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Age: 30 Posts: 1292 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Ikoma_Harokusake wrote: | | I've got a Spymaster with magistrate skills, and uh... "ninja" skills. (for lack of a better word). |
I'm assuming that means you actually put some points in that stealth skill...so you could be recon guy maybe?
| Ikoma_Harokusake wrote: | | Maybe we should make a thread (and get it sticked) with our character sheets, so all of us can check regularly what we can do. |
I'm gonna agree with Kagetora here...probably not such a good idea. If we ant to PM them or email them that's fine put to post them on a board that could become public?? And who's to say that one of us isn't a plant? It's a fine line between Ikoma Spymaster and straight out Scorpion Spy.
| Ikoma_Harokusake wrote: | | I have started to try and befriend some Mantis. I am sure it would be tactically wise to have them as "friends" rather than enemies. |
I'm all for this, I volunteer to help with PR. I'll offer to 'befriend' Koneko to improve Mantis-Lion relations
| Ikoma_Harokusake wrote: | | I think it should be important to know why the Mantis are here, and what their goals are. That way we could maybe help then on the stuff that wont affect us, and thus gain their trust, and also hinder them with things we dont want them do achieve, using subtlety. |
I think that's a sound idea. Although after the 'incident' at the Imperial City it won't be easy to truly gain their trust. Do they have a proper courtier with their delegation? If not it might be easier...
| Ikoma_Harokusake wrote: | | I think it would be best to assign certain short-term and long-term objectives, decide how they should be achieved, and assign people to execute them. |
I agree. I nominate the following short term objective for everyone who is interested...MORE ALLIES. The more friends we can get and do favours for, obviously the more friends we can call favours in on. I know it sounds Crane-ish, but lets face it. That's how the whole system works.
| Ikoma_Harokusake wrote: | | I would like to go into this with a proper, well thought-out gameplan. |
Agreed. _________________ Lion Clan*Courtier*Voice*Benten's Blessing
Glory 1.8*Status 0.5*Honor 0.1
There's this beautiful girl just funked me forty ways from Sunday... we're done, she's walking to the bathroom, she's trying to walk, she turns... she looks... it's me. Not the Trojan army just funked her. Little ol' me. She gets this look on her face like: "How the hell did that happen?"
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Ikoma_Toshimoko Delegation Head

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Posts: 526 Location: With Yurihime-chan!
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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Ok Id like to state that this whole "Planning" thing has been taken WAY out of Lion context, here. @_@
First off, not a very Lion thing to assasinate people straight out. Personally I say SMOOSH to that idea. Also, I don't think that blatant usage of blackmail-esque knowledge would be very Lion to do.
That being said, you guys playing Spymasters are starting to sound alot like "Scorpion", with these idiologies. For the record I'd like to recant, that Spymasters are not Scorpion; they are still first and foremost, LION!
This means that, one, while being Lion, you are amoung the most subtle, and discret schools in the empire. Use that to your advantage. I hate to reference Corey, aka Evil Bob, here but, look at Kyoro in winter court. No one suspected hiim Icly of being a spymaster, not even his own clan, abiet his family Daimyo knew, but that was to be expected.
Spymasters are some of the best courtiers in the empire, willing to do everything they can to better the Honor, and "Image" of their clan. This means: One, don't mess up your objectives. Two, don't allow anyone any suspicion as to what you truely are, not even your own clanmates, possibly not even your own school mates. Three, use your wit and patience to achieve your goals. And finally, number four, No not, and I mean do not, do anything dishonorable, that cannot be solved honorably. You are spymasters, yes. You are willing to sacrifice your honor for the clans, yes. But the key word there is Sacrifice, if it is an unnessicary loss, don't make it. You are not Ninja, nor are you assassins, in general. You are a highly speciallized, highly trained, operative group, that can function without central leadership.
All I have to say is: Be Subtle, and don't reveal your hands. especially when you haven't got one first. Be cautious, and extremely careful, not to aggitate, or aggrivate any situation, past what you directly can handle, unless you have extreme reason to do so.
I will post again with my full plan later, because last time I posted this, it got erased. @_@...
So this is my second try here, here goes. _________________ Lion Clan Samurai-Duelist-Missing Left Hand-Idealistic
Honor: 4.5 Glory: 2 Status: 2
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Kitsu_Sukune

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Age: 30 Posts: 1292 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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OK, firstly - I fully agree with everything Toshimoko said.
Secondly this is incredibly funny comment from a character with only one hand -
| Ikoma_Toshimoko wrote: | | All I have to say is: Be Subtle, and don't reveal your hands. especially when you haven't got one first. |
_________________ Lion Clan*Courtier*Voice*Benten's Blessing
Glory 1.8*Status 0.5*Honor 0.1
There's this beautiful girl just funked me forty ways from Sunday... we're done, she's walking to the bathroom, she's trying to walk, she turns... she looks... it's me. Not the Trojan army just funked her. Little ol' me. She gets this look on her face like: "How the hell did that happen?"
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Ikoma_Toshimoko Delegation Head

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Posts: 526 Location: With Yurihime-chan!
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah that is pretty funny. *ROTFL*
But seriously guys, don't be jerks here, we want friends not enemies. We cannot afford enemies here. Alright guys. _________________ Lion Clan Samurai-Duelist-Missing Left Hand-Idealistic
Honor: 4.5 Glory: 2 Status: 2
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Matsu_Kagetora

Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 307 Location: Tiger's Lair (Bungalow Jū)
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:42 am Post subject: |
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There's one problem with concealing the spymaster identity: honor rank is very indicative. Without buying perceived honor one look will suffice for anyone who knows the setting to get suspicions. I am trying to legitimize my low honor by dishonorable behavior in a deviated Matsu fashion but the problem still stands for all of us. _________________ Lion Clan Bushi * Duelist * Dangerous Beauty * Large * Bad Reputation (Killer)
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Kitsu_Sukune

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Age: 30 Posts: 1292 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:42 am Post subject: |
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| Matsu_Kagetora wrote: | | There's one problem with concealing the spymaster identity: honor rank is very indicative. Without buying perceived honor one look will suffice for anyone who knows the setting to get suspicions. I am trying to legitimize my low honor by dishonorable behavior in a deviated Matsu fashion but the problem still stands for all of us. |
That's why I'm being a complete lech... _________________ Lion Clan*Courtier*Voice*Benten's Blessing
Glory 1.8*Status 0.5*Honor 0.1
There's this beautiful girl just funked me forty ways from Sunday... we're done, she's walking to the bathroom, she's trying to walk, she turns... she looks... it's me. Not the Trojan army just funked her. Little ol' me. She gets this look on her face like: "How the hell did that happen?"
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